Juan Vaamonde [10:51 AM] curious to hear about your thought on issues with jira, guessing youre referring to the workflow it encourages, rather than its usability and appearance?
Sumeet Ekbote [10:52 AM] it’s usability and apperance are slightly better in a way than VSTS. VSTS for sure has strange navigation but jira breeds a culture of staying in Jira and not actually doing anything also it’s not really cohesive. VSTS’s integration with builds and tickets and issues is way better if your life and job revolves around creating tickets and prettying your board and not acting on tickets jira is great also making tickets way more complicated than they should be VSTS navigation at the top is confusing for sure but if you ignore that the rest of it is not that bad (relatively speaking of course)
Juan Vaamonde [10:54 AM] i never really had any issues with VSTS
Sumeet Ekbote [10:54 AM] yeah neither
Juan Vaamonde [10:54 AM] although i noticed that the teams and products and releases werent setup properly
Sumeet Ekbote [10:54 AM] definitely but that’s an issue with us and like 3 people having VSTS admin privileges
Juan Vaamonde [10:55 AM] from memory "project inferno" was setup as a product or something like that?
Sumeet Ekbote [10:55 AM] We can’t even manage our own teams on vsts which is terrible because of creds yeah I think so the thing is it doesn’t even require a lot of training whoever set it up fucked up and should just change it in terms of full vertical integration between stories to releases VSTS is way better than jira it provides accountability and tracking through the whole pipeline
Juan Vaamonde [10:59 AM] can you give me an example of: